Something from today. - Oak In-frame.

Today between meetings I have designed this one. I need a better 150cm range cooker graphic!

This is a first draft for a customer who, so far, has emailed over some plans and we had a brief phone conversation about what to do with the space. So chances are this will change.
I just needed to put something together to tempt them in. As "it's a 45 minutes drive to the showroom" so they needed to see what sort of thing we could do and an idea of cost before they made the journey!


http://portraitkitchens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/image.jpg


http://portraitkitchens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/image-2.jpg

after a chat with a Mr Turner on FB I've tweaked some lighting. But is it any better


http://portraitkitchens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/lighting-with-spots-tweaked.bmp

Nice first draft.... Would the Smeg A5-8 be a better range graphic for it?

probably. Is that in the standard Articad Smeg cat. ?
I cant see it.

A Smeg A5-5 is included:

Nice renders, If you have such bright sunlight and lit appearance in the windows coming in then i would turn the spots off to give a more natural daylight look. This guy explains it better with the first image he is talking about. Still down to user preference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfYjsHLbqxo

mister_mitch wrote:after a chat with a Mr Turner on FB I've tweaked some lighting. But is it any better


http://portraitkitchens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/lighting-with-spots-tweaked.bmp

Are you using the default materials??

Joe wrote:
Nice renders,  If you have such bright sunlight and lit appearance in the windows coming in then i would turn the spots off to give a more natural daylight look. This guy explains it better with the first image he is talking about. Still down to user preference.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfYjsHLbqxo    

A great critique on image composition. Some very useful points on some already good renders.

Darrel wrote:
Are you using the default materials??

Some yes, most no.
Any that look like they need improvement?

Looks great. How long did this take to put together? unfortunately i find it always comes down to lack of graphics that is the biggest issue and giveaway that the image is just an image, not a photograph which defeats the whole point of photo-realism.

mister_mitch wrote:

Darrel wrote:
Are you using the default materials??

Some yes, most no.
Any that look like they need improvement?

Most look as though they need a bit more reflection. Increasing this for the likes of the oak material will reduce the "glow and orange" look it has.

Jaynehiddleston wrote:Looks great. How long did this take to put together?

Did the design throughout saturday between customers. So maybe 1.5 - 2 hours? Renders took about an hour per image.


Daz, if i get chance ill try tweaking the reflection and see how it looks.

Thats good going! I spend far too long trying to edit materials and improve realism......hoping V21 is going to have these materials as promised. Surely, 2 years on from when they announced it was nearly ready, they will be launching it at KBB?

Hope you get the job, keep us updated!

they have said on FB it will be ready @ KBB

Jaynehiddleston wrote:Thats good going! I spend far too long trying to edit materials and improve realism......hoping V21 is going to have these materials as promised. Surely, 2 years on from when they announced it was nearly ready, they will be launching it at KBB?

Hope you get the job, keep us updated!

I'm the same as you Jayne, spend far too long on it for my own good

Jaynehiddleston wrote:Thats good going! I spend far too long trying to edit materials and improve realism......hoping V21 is going to have these materials as promised. Surely, 2 years on from when they announced it was nearly ready, they will be launching it at KBB?

Hope you get the job, keep us updated!

You'll miss all that tinkering Jayne

Mingerz wrote:

Jaynehiddleston wrote:Thats good going! I spend far too long trying to edit materials and improve realism......hoping V21 is going to have these materials as promised. Surely, 2 years on from when they announced it was nearly ready, they will be launching it at KBB?

Hope you get the job, keep us updated!

You'll miss all that tinkering Jayne

its what i live for.......

so this customer has brought in a competitors design which they have ask me to copy  
ok, so this island is bigger and maybe that's what the like? but I think my TV wall section and Range cooker section is much better 

I've removed the customer and dealer info from under each image.
(Nath - this design is from my favorite local Burbidge dealers   )





Thoughts on this design vs mine ? be honest, I wont cry 

and its not my scanner - ther renders / print outs the customer had were that grainy

I prefer yours...

The tall oven housing behind the door.... not really practical...??

The size of the island?.... looks massive.... will need a joint in the worktop which I would not like

'copied' the other showrooms design now.
With a few tweaks, and actually drawn the mantle/chimney as per the customers hand drawings - well close enough anyway.

Only did this one quickly, as the customer still hasn't taken the time to ever come in, so wondering if I should be taking the time to do his design work...

mister_mitch wrote:'copied' the other showrooms design now.
With a few tweaks, and actually drawn the mantle/chimney as per the customers hand drawings - well close enough anyway.

Only did this one quickly, as the customer still hasn't taken the time to ever come in, so wondering if I should be taking the time to do his design work...

I am not seeing the images Mitch??

hows about now?

mister_mitch wrote:hows about now?

Yeah....all is revealed now ...

Looks superb.... sold...

What a difference in renders compared to the Burbidge ones! Great work!

I still cant see the images.....just a circular box with a line through it? Really want to see how much better yours are Mitch! Do you charge for designs?

hmmm odd. the security setting are set to share etc. so should be able to see?
they are in a google folder here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/3CmOMzmuIs7Z74Hu1  = folder

Jayne. No, I dont charge for design. 

Part of the reason this guy is starting to get on my t!ts is because we are at V3, I know he is speaking to two other showrooms and the client hasn't bothered to come in and see my product, pick a door range, worktop, etc - i'm only 45 minutes away! so all my designs and quotes are estimates based on what he's seen else where and what I think he is after / they have quoted.
I think that's all i'm going to be doing for them now, they either come in or I bow out.
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