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Wed May 29, 2019 3:54 pm
cornice fixed to run better at the front.  Shocked
worktop still being a dick on breakfront designs.  Embarassed
Plinths still messing about a bit.  Mad


But the cornice seems to be sorted!  Cool
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Wed May 29, 2019 5:03 pm
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SO clad on end panels and turn of cornice on the panels will suit 95% of people and designs I would think?
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:31 pm
They've still not sorted the frame issues since Build 41 which I told them about. These random gaps appear when I edit frames with as you can see. I'm back to V20 now, and not touching V21 again until this is sorted. 


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Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:47 pm
That's odd, I've never noticed that before, although I always have my inner and outer measurements very close to each other (usually 18mm & 19mm for a 37mm frame for example)

Is there a reason you need to split the frames like that Jayne? By the looks of it you seem to be wanting to have a 44mm top and bottom frame and a 22mm left and right hand rail?
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:51 pm
yes, its because we make our frames in one single piece as opposed to having a "in frame" kitchen but each cabinet is stand alone which would mean double frames (44 + 44) next to each other creating an 88mm wide frame, if you follow? It was never an issue on V20, or V21 Build 40, but Build 41 and 42 its appeared. By doing 22mm each side, its created 44mm when cabinets are next to each other.
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:58 pm
I guessed that's what you were doing Smile

The configuration below works fine in v21 and gives the 44mm top and bottom and 44mm between each doorset, whether it's a single or double cabinet?

Inner Top - 0.0
Inner Bottom - 0.0
Inner Left - 22.0
Inner Right - 22.0

Outer Top - 44.0
Outer Bottom - 44.0
Outer Left - 0.0
Outer Right - 0.0
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:06 pm
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Like this?
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm
Thats great Michael thanks, however when I use a "Traditional wide bead" in advanced settings, the cockbead disappears from both top and bottom of door as below. Does it do this on yours too?

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Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:20 pm
Oh, yeah of course, the profiles are only applied to the inner frame.

Let me have a think!
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:23 pm
Inner Top - 44.0
Inner Bottom - 44.0
Inner Left - 22.0
Inner Right - 22.0

Outer Top - 0.0
Outer Bottom - 0.0
Outer Left - 0.0
Outer Right - 0.0


That seems to work (Although the Traditional Wide Bead never looks right if you ask me!)
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:40 pm
As soon as you mentioned the profiles applying to inner frames i tried this! Its not quite right still, it crosses over at every corner and the cockbead seems to be making the frame thinner than it used to.... better than it was though so many thanks!
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:18 pm
I don't think either of the traditional beads work properly TBH, they both seem to overlap in the corners, it's just more noticeable on the wide one.

I've not used v20 for a good couple of months now, apart from the plinth and cornice issues which don't take too long to fix, everything else seems fine now Smile
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Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:32 pm
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Spoke with Byron at Articad - really helpful guy! He logged in and we got a solution to work. Settings are as above for anyone interested. Wide Bead still distorted but it would do at a push.
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